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1Kagura's arsenal round 2 Empty Kagura's arsenal round 2 Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:31 am

Kagura M

Kagura M

Kagura's arsenal round 2 73m2

Name: Tatarforas
Rank: S
Type: Genjustu  
Used For: Offensive
Element:
Range: anyone that looks at the user  
Duration: depends how long the user stays in the gen
Hand Seals/Charge up: none
Description: An incredibly powerful and lethal genjustu actually able to damage and kill a person by inducing limitless fear and causing shock to the victim. The user infuses the genjustu around themselves or an object causing an illusion to appear around whatever is infused. This item or user will not change in appearance at all, but anyone who looks at the item or user will instantly be overcome with a deep seated  and irrational fear of the the thing infused as the genjustu will travel through their optic nerves in their eyes to directly affect their brain, the beauty behind this technique is they only have to see any part of the thing infused once, as fear remains in ones memories and mind. This fear is so great that those affected will begin to doubt everything, and begin to lose control of all rational thought. Even if a person knows that they are in this genjustu, the irrationality of this fear causes them to still feel the affects completely. Those affected will have their heart begin to beat uncontrollably faster, and they will tremble intensely in fear making it impossible for them to hold anything. Those affected will feel their vision blur and they will begin to feel sluggish, bloated, and weak, causing the their mobility to be greatly hindered to the point that they will only be able to do a trembling frantic walk, their speed going down one stage, they will steadily grow more frantic over the course of 4 posts, after 4 posts target will be not able to stand or move and they will fall to the ground, losing control of their bladder and rectum causing them to piss and shit themselves. Molding chakra also becomes harder for those affected by this gen as it is almost impossible to concentrate to mold chakra, making it so they can only perform jutsu of one rank lower than their rank, On the 4th post in this genjustu, those affected will die as their heart won't be able to take anymore, and they will die of intense shock. Ironically those with doujustu, such as the byakugan or sharigan, that can see chakra and tell when people are in genjustu will be more easily affected than others, only having to see the chakra around the infused thing to be affected, and thanks to highly sensitive eyes of those with dojustu, they only have 2 posts before succumbing to shock and dying. The user can cancel this genjustu at any time they wish.  
Weakness: Any person with at least adept in medical can calm and stop the rapid beating of the heart with the mystic palm technique, only affects vision. Those with a higher skill in sensory than the user can tell something is up around the infused object because of the chakra coating, this does not go for chakra seeing dojustu as they will have to look at the thing infused to tell, and would then be already in the gen. Kai can break this like all gens, but since the user is overcome with such an irrational fear they usually don't think to or are trembling too much to form the hand sign, so it will require someone not affected to release the genjustu for them. If someone affected by this gen manages to get out of the topic with the user, the affects will stop.

Name: Charm speak
Rank: B
Type: Genjustu
Used For:
Element:
Range: those 10 meters around the user
Duration: until cancelled
Hand Seals/Charge up:
Description: A simple genjustu that is incredibly affective  and can be infused into everyday speech. This release of genjustu increases their power of suggestion and persuasion over other living things 10 meters around the user, as well as makes their voice automatically highly appealing to any who hear it, no matter what their preference in voice is. It allows them to convince others to do things for them, or trust them, though there are limitations as the user cannot persuade a person into doing something that is completely unlike them with no real reason. For example if the user charm speaks to tell someone to kill their best friend, it would be ineffective because they gave no reason, and it is an incredibly unrealistic thing for a person to do (unless an uchiha of course). Though if the user's uses charm speak and tells the target that their friend has been committing terrible acts, was shit talking them, or planning on killing them, they have the opportunity to turn the target against their friend, and trust them more. This ability only affects those with an equal to or lower ability in genjustu, and the larger the difference is in the ability of genjustu the more effect charm speak will have and if it is used on those with no abilities in genjustu, the target will listen to, do, and believe almost anything the target says up to a point of basic human reason, and common fact, the user cannot make a person kill themselves no matter what for example, no matter what level the target has in genjustu. Those under the effects of charm speak can be release by regular genjustu method, though releasing themselves is a hard task as they find a user of these highly trustworthy and believable in most occasions.  
Weakness: Can be broken by regular methods such as kai, has an incredibly close range, those that can see chakra will see chakra surrounding the user's tongue. Those with basic in genjustu are immune to this.

Name: Gift of the clear lake
Rank: dependent on what it is affect, B rank to buy though.
Type: ninjustu
Used For: both
Element: suiton
Range: Can affect any liquids 40 meters around the user, or be used when the using is forming a justu
Duration: depends on justu used on
Hand Seals/Charge up: Extra snake hand seal added to the hand seals for the justu, if it doesn't require hand seals than not needed.
Description: The user can manipulate viscosity also know as the resistance of fluids to a change shape, able to change any fluid to be incredibly thick and sticky, or make it become incredibly smooth and thin. If a suiton technique is made thicker and sticky it go up in power by one rank, and will also increase its resistance to damage by one rank. If used to make a suiton technique thinner and smooth that technique's power as resistance to damage will go down by one stage, but its speed will go up.  It is also possible to affect other' suiton techniques with this justu, but it will require the user to use chakra equal to the technique they are trying to affect plus 1, so if they wanted to affect a c rank suiton technique, it would require them to use a b rank amount of chakra.

This justu can also be used offensively by itself in order to thicken the fluid in a person's joints, or make their blood or cranial fluid thicken and be unable to move. In order to do this the user will have to make contact with the target, but even the slightest of touches will work. If successful the target will feel their blood thicken and their body almost feel jello like. Their speed will drop two ranks and they will move it almost slow motion. There thought process will also be slowed as their cranial fluid has become to thick for their head and messed with their brain working, causing them to not be able to use justu above B rank while affected. These affects will last for four posts, and it will cost a b rank amount of chakra to do this.  
Weakness: Must make contact for this to be offensive on its own, other wise it needs another suiton technique to be useful.



Last edited by Kagura M on Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:29 am; edited 3 times in total

2Kagura's arsenal round 2 Empty Re: Kagura's arsenal round 2 Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:46 pm

Setōshi

Setōshi

Kagura M wrote:
Kagura's arsenal round 2 73m2

Name: Tatarforas
Rank: S
Type: Genjustu  
Used For: Offensive
Element:
Range: anyone that looks at the user  
Duration: depends how long the user stays in the gen
Hand Seals/Charge up: none
Description: An incredibly powerful and lethal genjustu actually able to damage and kill a person by inducing limitless fear and causing shock to the victim. The user infuses the genjustu around themselves or an object causing an illusion to appear around whatever is infused. This item or user will not change in appearance at all, but anyone who looks at the item or user will instantly be overcome with a deep seated  and irrational fear of the the thing infused as the genjustu will travel through their optic nerves in their eyes to directly affect their brain, the beauty behind this technique is they only have to see any part of the thing infused once, as fear remains in ones memories and mind, this goes the same for reflections. This fear is so great that those affected will begin to doubt everything, and begin to lose control of all rational thought. Even if a person knows that they are in this genjustu, the irrationality of this fear causes them to still feel the affects completely. Those affected will have their heart begin to beat uncontrollably faster, and they will tremble intensely in fear making it impossible for them to hold anything, or produce hand signs. Those affected will feel their vision blur and they will begin to feel sluggish, bloated, and weak, causing the their mobility to be greatly hindered to the point that they will only be able to do a trembling frantic walk, their speed going down two stanges stage, they will steadily grow more frantic over the course of 4 posts, after 4 posts target will be not able to stand or move and they will fall to the ground, losing control of their bladder and rectum causing them to piss and shit themselves. Molding chakra also becomes harder for those affected by this gen as it is almost impossible to concentrate to mold chakra, making it so they can only perform jutsu of c rank or lower. On the 5th post in this genjustu, those affected will die as their heart won't be able to take anymore, and they will die of intense shock. Ironically those with doujustu, such as the byakugan or sharigan, that can see chakra and tell when people are in genjustu will be more easily affected than others, only having to see the chakra around the infused thing to be affected, and thanks to highly sensitive eyes of those with dojustu, they only have 2 posts before succumbing to shock and dying. The user can cancel this genjustu at any time they wish.  
Weakness: Any person with at least adept in medical can calm and stop the rapid beating of the heart with the mystic palm technique, only affects vision. Those with a higher skill in sensory than the user can tell something is up around the infused object because of the chakra coating, this does not go for chakra seeing dojustu as they will have to look at the thing infused to tell, and would then be already in the gen. Kai can break this like all gens, but since the user is overcome with such an irrational fear they usually don't think to or are trembling too much to form the hand sign, so it will require someone not affected to release the genjustu for them. If someone affected by this gen manages to get out of the topic with the user, the affects will stop.

Name: Charm speak
Rank: D
Type: Genjustu
Used For:
Element:
Range: those 10 meters around the user
Duration: until cancelled
Hand Seals/Charge up:
Description: A simple genjustu that is incredibly affective  and can be infused into everyday speech. This release of genjustu increases their power of suggestion and persuasion over other living things 20 meters around the user, as well as makes their voice automatically highly appealing to any who hear it, no matter what their preference in voice is. It allows them to convince others to do things for them, or trust them, though there are limitations as the user cannot persuade a person into doing something that is completely unlike them with no real reason. For example if the user charm speaks to tell someone to kill their best friend, it would be ineffective because they gave no reason, and it is an incredibly unrealistic thing for a person to do (unless an uchiha of course). Though if the user's uses charm speak and tells the target that their friend has been committing terrible acts, was shit talking them, or planning on killing them, they have the opportunity to turn the target against their friend, and trust them more. This ability only affects those with an equal to or lower ability in genjustu, and the larger the difference is in the ability of genjustu the more effect charm speak will have and if it is used on those with no abilities in genjustu, the target will listen to, do, and believe almost anything the target says up to a point of basic human reason, and common fact, the user cannot make a person kill themselves no matter what for example, no matter what level the target has in genjustu. Those under the effects of charm speak can be release by regular genjustu method, though releasing themselves is a hard task as they find a user of these highly trustworthy and believable in most occasions.  
Weakness: Can be broken by regular methods such as kai, has an incredibly close range, those that can see chakra will see chakra surrounding the user's tongue.  

Name: Water Mirror technique
Rank: A
Type: ninjustu
Used For: both
Element: suiton
Range: Mirrors can formed up to 25 meters away from the user
Duration: Mirrors last two posts  
Hand Seals/Charge up: Clap hands together
Description: The user creates a large, flat, circular pool of water anywhere in a 25 meter range around themselves Its surface acts like a mirror, perfectly reflecting anything it is facing, such as any attacks. By then rotating the 'mirror' 90°, the reflections emerge and materialist from the mirror, where they collide with the mirrored targets. As these reflections use the exact same technique as their counterpart — regardless of its type — they counter the attack completely, while repelling them in the process. However, upon impact, the reflections disperse into water. This Can only reflect A rank and below techniques. These mirrors can also be used as shield and have A rank defenses, able to block an A rank, two b ranks, and so on.
Weakness: cannon

Name: Gift of the clear lake
Rank: dependent on what it is affect, B rank to buy though.
Type: ninjustu
Used For: both
Element: suiton
Range: Can affect any liquids 40 meters around the user, or be used when the using is forming a justu
Duration: depends on justu used on
Hand Seals/Charge up: Extra snake hand seal added to the hand seals for the justu, if it doesn't require hand seals than not needed.
Description: The user can manipulate viscosity also know as the resistance of fluids to a change shape, able to change any fluid to be incredibly thick and sticky, or make it become incredibly smooth and thin. If a suiton technique is made thicker and sticky it go up in power by one rank, and will also increase its resistance to damage by one rank. If used to make a suiton technique thinner and smooth that technique's power as resistance to damage will go down by one stage, but its speed will go up.  It is also possible to affect other' suiton techniques with this justu, but it will require the user to use chakra equal to the technique they are trying to affect plus 1, so if they wanted to affect a c rank suiton technique, it would require them to use a b rank amount of chakra.

This justu can also be used offensively by itself in order to thicken the fluid in a person's joints, or make their blood or cranial fluid thicken and be unable to move. In order to do this the user will have to make contact with the target, but even the slightest of touches will work. If successful the target will feel their blood thicken and their body almost feel jello like. Their speed will drop two ranks and they will move it almost slow motion. There thought process will also be slowed as their cranial fluid has become to thick for their head and messed with their brain working, causing them to not be able to use justu above B rank while affected. These affects will last for four posts, and it will cost a b rank amount of chakra to do this.  
Weakness: Must make contact for this to be offensive on its own, other wise it needs another suiton technique to be useful.


  • Tatarforas: (I'm giving you What I got Pm'd for this jutsu)

    It is too OP and can be denied simply because of the fact that it is too OP, simple. Next i thought only Uchiha clan are able to cast visual Genjutsu as seen in the anime and manga? i don't think anybody else has casted a Visual Genjutsu but i could be mistaking? I understand the trembling in fear but why are all these other effects coming into play? why is he shitting and pissing himself? why does his vision blur? why is he still effected even though he knows that they are in the Genjutsu? it is far to over powered and should only have one of the effects not 10 different effects? so you're right it is too OP and can be denied for that fact. Also the weakness only covers ONE of the effects which is the heart beat. What about the vision blur and everything else?

  • Charm speak: This needs to be reduced to the 10 M as stated in the range. Also, the staff have said that it needs a better weakness pertaining to the jutsu since nearly every Genjutsu can be broken with Kai. Also, please add in that this effects those of two ranks and lower than the user, reason because people do have strong wills. (Sato)

    Range says 10m but description says 20? This needs a better weakness. Every genjutsu is able to be broken by Kai i believe? he needs something more suitable towards the jutsu. What if their character is built on a 'Fuck the world, don't trust anybody' personality? what if the opponent has a strong will power? etc...

  • Water Mirror technique: This technique is going on the limited list already, I asked about it a couple of days ago but V just hasn't done so. Remove the app.

  • Gift of the clear lake: As ruled by the staff, this is denied.





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3Kagura's arsenal round 2 Empty Re: Kagura's arsenal round 2 Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:47 pm

Kagura M

Kagura M

It is too OP and can be denied simply because of the fact that it is too OP, simple. Next i thought only Uchiha clan are able to cast visual Genjutsu as seen in the anime and manga? i don't think anybody else has casted a Visual Genjutsu but i could be mistaking? I understand the trembling in fear but why are all these other effects coming into play? why is he shitting and pissing himself? why does his vision blur? why is he still effected even though he knows that they are in the Genjutsu? it is far to over powered and should only have one of the effects not 10 different effects? so you're right it is too OP and can be denied for that fact. Also the weakness only covers ONE of the effects which is the heart beat. What about the vision blur and everything else?

Uchiha cast visual genjustu through the eye, this is not happening through the eye, this is covering one's whole body, they are not they only ones aloud to cast genjustu that go through the sensory catalyst of vision. The other effects aren't from the genjusut, they are all basic side effects of fear that I am listing down, and what actually happens to people if they are actually scared to death, lose of control of the bowls and rectum is just another side effect. The reason a person is still effected, is because this fear is irrational, there is no reason to it or trigger, knowing that the fear isn't real doesn't stop an irrational fear from working. So in reality it only has one effect of causing fear, with logical side effects, trying to denied something because of the term "op" is actually quite silly most of the time, and is mostly just used when someone can't understand the abilities behind a justu or move, it lacks total reason and description, so you're right in the fact that it is simple, because it is after all a simple minded reasoning. This justu just causes intense fear and list what logically happens to someone going through intense fear, nothing more and nothing less.

This needs to be reduced to the 10 M as stated in the range. Also, the staff have said that it needs a better weakness pertaining to the jutsu since nearly every Genjutsu can be broken with Kai. Also, please add in that this effects those of two ranks and lower than the user, reason because people do have strong wills.

better weakness? what do you just suggest it is only a d rank, and not every1 has a strong will in order to avoid, they are usually rare, though I put in those with gen are immune to it.

As ruled by the staff, this is denied.

Do they have a reason? Or do staff just stop explaining themselves now?

4Kagura's arsenal round 2 Empty Re: Kagura's arsenal round 2 Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:48 am

Setōshi

Setōshi

Tatarfores

"The user infuses the genjustu around themselves or an object causing an illusion to appear around whatever is infused"

Remove the whatever is infused part, you specifically say the user so it needs to stay at that. Also, the trigger needs to be some action and not just looking at the user, so please add this in. Please remove the reflections part also, it needs to be full on.

"Those affected will have their heart begin to beat uncontrollably faster, and they will tremble intensely in fear making it impossible for them to hold anything, or produce hand signs."

"trembling too much to form the hand sign, so it will require someone not affected to release the genjustu for them"

Please remove the inability to produce hand signs, even Kai utilizes hand seals. The inability to hold things is fine though. Also remove this

"their speed going down two stanges stage"

Edit this to 1 tier please.

"Molding chakra also becomes harder for those affected by this gen as it is almost impossible to concentrate to mold chakra, making it so they can only perform jutsu of c rank or lower."

Edit this to a single rank lower than their rank please.

"Ironically those with doujustu, such as the byakugan or sharigan, that can see chakra and tell when people are in genjustu will be more easily affected than others, only having to see the chakra around the infused thing to be affected, and thanks to highly sensitive eyes of those with dojustu, they only have 2 posts before succumbing to shock and dying"

Please explain why doujutsu users will die in 2 posts because this isn't making sense, being more susceptible to being drawn into the Genjutsu is fine, but the dying part is not. So make it make more sense or it will need to be removed.




Charm

You still need to add in what I added above.

"This ability only affects those with an equal to or lower ability in genjustu, and the larger the difference is in the ability of genjustu the more effect charm speak will have and if it is used on those with no abilities in genjustu, the target will listen to, do, and believe almost anything the target says up to a point of basic human reason, and common fact, the user cannot make a person kill themselves no matter what for example, no matter what level the target has in genjustu"

After being spoken over by staff, because of this effect this technique will need to be bumped to B Rank.




Clear Lake was denied because it was deemed equivalent to LRA for Suiton Techs and the second half was deemed to OP to fit within the sites perimeters. Forgive me for not explaining earlier, was in a rush.




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5Kagura's arsenal round 2 Empty Re: Kagura's arsenal round 2 Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:34 pm

Kagura M

Kagura M

Remove the whatever is infused part, you specifically say the user so it needs to stay at that. Also, the trigger needs to be some action and not just looking at the user, so please add this in. Please remove the reflections part also, it needs to be full on.

I say the user or an object, it was never meant to be just the user so I don't know what you are talking about. And why does the trigger need more, It is the basic vision trigger used for all visual gen, uchiha trigger with their eyes by the person looking at them, lighting flash pillar activates by looking at the flash, looking at something has always been the trigger for visual genjustu. Took out the reflection part tho.

Fixed hand sign thing, chakra, and speed things

They will die faster because they take in more of the genjustu than others, the genjustu affects through the optic nerves in eye, their eyes and also optic nerves are being enhanced with their kkg and chakra to allow them to see chakra and see more, this makes it easier for the genjustu to affect them, while also making the gen affected them more rapidly than a normal ninja causing them to feel the final effects in half the time.

You still need to add in what I added above.
After being spoken over by staff, because of this effect this technique will need to be bumped to B Rank.


Why the hell would I make this only affect people two ranks lower if those with any gen experience are already immune and if this is going to be bumped to B rank, a rank where justu are supposed to have a great amount of offensive potential. The strong will argument makes little sense at all seeing as not everyone equal to or one rank lower will always have a strong will and it is usually an incredibly rare trait, seems like last minute made up reason in order to nerf the thing, can't you guys come up with something at least somewhat fair for a weakness instead of something that lame.

Clear Lake was denied because it was deemed equivalent to LRA for Suiton Techs and the second half was deemed to OP to fit within the sites perimeters. Forgive me for not explaining earlier, was in a rush.

How is Lra, a raiton and speed enhancing armor meant for close combat style fighting, anyway like a justu that manipulates the viscosity of water, and is meant to enhance suiton techniques for long range style fighting, like what? The user does not form a water armor around themselves, or increase their own speed, nor is it even a nintaijustu. How you people chose to compare these two things is beyond me, but they are far far far from the same things at all. Can I get an actual legit reason for why this is being denied, or can we get on with grading it?


6Kagura's arsenal round 2 Empty Re: Kagura's arsenal round 2 Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:12 pm

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7Kagura's arsenal round 2 Empty Re: Kagura's arsenal round 2 Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:38 pm

Sato

Sato



  • Tatarforas: So as soon as they are caught the effects take place instantly and even after the jutsu they still remain in fear? if so then remove that or add a certain amount of posts they need to be in the Genjutsu. If they are in the Genjutsu for a certain amount of posts then sure they could still feel fear after the Genjutsu but even then, that would still need a post limit. Removing the dying in 4 / 2 posts, that's ridiculous.
  • Charm speak : Your saying that their are limitations to this but in reality, there isn't. All you did was sugar coat the words and add a fake reason to the end of the sentence meaning that all you need to do to get someone to kill another is add a few more words to a sentence for example, "Hey kill him." then it wouldn't work however "Hey kill him because hes trying to steal" then it would work lol? Next you say that it effects people equal or lower so if you were to have mastery it basically effects everybody, Change that to lower. You still need to add something about strong willed people, even if it is rare. If somebody was to put in their personality that they have a strong will then they have a strong will whether you like it or not. Also one can realize they are in this genjutsu when they do stuff out of their nature.
  • Gift of the clear lake: This is an S-rank technique so change that. Drop the range down to 15m. The entire last section is denied. Not allowing you to control liquids within people and blood bend somebody, thats a no so remove the last section of the jutsu.

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8Kagura's arsenal round 2 Empty Re: Kagura's arsenal round 2 Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:21 am

Kagura M

Kagura M

Spoiler:

Why would I put a certain amount of posts they need to stay in when they can obviously just look away from the user every time it being used, like duh it will never work then. 4 posts is more than enough time in an actually fight, most people don't get to make 5 posts in an serious meant to kill combat topic, not really ridiculous at all, feel like this is a major overreaction to an S rank technique.
Spoiler:

There are limitations, if you actually read all of it then you would know that you cannot make anyone do anything that is out of basic human reason no matter what level, I think your aggressive and rude attitude and over reactions to all my justu is really the thing to lol @ right now m8. I changed it to lower for you though, and no I am not putting in something as unpredictable as things stated on a personality trait on a character app, when no other justu requires those, your total case of this "strong will" thing is ridiculous as even strong wills can be broken given enough time or increase in energy, find out an actual system for it and then I might add it in. I never said people couldn't I am saying that given how persuasive the user is, that they would believe the user and not think they are in a gen, ya need to learn to read fully m8 and not skim before making assumptions.


Spoiler:

Changed to S rank and dropped range to 20, which is more than fair for an S rank technique. Also your classification of blood bending seems to be a little off, if this was blood bending you would be able to control the blood flow completely and manipulate the other person's body like a puppet, the last part is simply an offensive attack and nothing more there is no reason for it be taken out, it isn't blood bending m8.

9Kagura's arsenal round 2 Empty Re: Kagura's arsenal round 2 Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:46 pm

Sato

Sato



  • Tatarforas: Im not talking about the triggering of the jutsu. Im talking about the effects being in place if the jutsu is cancelled early. Im saying add something like "If they are caught in the jutsu for _ posts then even after the genjutsu is broken they would still feel effects etc.."
  • Charm speak : I wasn't asking. Either make the changes or its denied simple.
  • Gift of the clear lake: Like i said, im not allowing you to control liquids inside somebodies character, remove it or denied. Simple.

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