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1Kurogane Clan Empty Kurogane Clan Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:02 pm

Suna no Kai

Suna no Kai
D-rank missing ninja
D-rank missing ninja

Kurogane Clan 1prj

Clan Name: Kurogane
Clan elements:
- Doton = Koton
Special characteristics/traits: None
Location: Kirigakure

Bloodline Name: Koton
Bloodline Ability:
- Koton, or Steel Release, is a Kekkei Genkai that combines Raiton and Doton chakra in order ot get Koton. Koton can be used for various reasons, the most common is for the user to give their body steel-like properties. Another is being able to manipulate pre-existing metal - 'Koton: Molecular Recomposition' is required to do this.
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Secret Clan Jutsu:
Koton:

Clan History: The Kurogane Clan is one known for producing powerful Shinobi with Koton. They originate from Kiri and thus have never been stationed in any other village. The clan history though is shroud in mystery since they aren't one's to get in the middle of Kiri's disputes. But that doesn't mean they aren't loyal to Kiri.

Members:
- Mai Kurogane
- Open
- Open



Last edited by Railgun on Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:30 am; edited 4 times in total

2Kurogane Clan Empty Re: Kurogane Clan Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:15 am

Suna no Kai

Suna no Kai
D-rank missing ninja
D-rank missing ninja

Completion Bump~

3Kurogane Clan Empty Re: Kurogane Clan Thu Dec 05, 2013 8:34 am

Raphael

Raphael
Konoha Chunin
Konoha Chunin

Both? Lolno >~>

Well actually I will accept both being gained through a dice roll Like they have to roll a 1-3 outta 100 or sum

4Kurogane Clan Empty Re: Kurogane Clan Thu Dec 05, 2013 8:41 am

Aigo

Aigo
Hokage
Hokage

I see where your going with this. A double advanced elemental clan is deadly, but massively OP'ed in the process.

First and foremost, how does Raiton (Lightning Release) and Doton (Earth Release) come together to get Koton (Steel Release) when Lightning Release can easily pass through the ground and break it apart? I would assume that Doton and Doton alone can only be able to make Steel Release. That's how I see it.

Second, what element makes up of Jiton (Magnet Release)? I understand Wind Release because it originated from Sunagakure and also Earth Release since I think that both Wind and Earth makes Sand and that a high skilled shinobi can use metallic sand to fight with.

I'll get into the jutsu when I have the time to.

5Kurogane Clan Empty Re: Kurogane Clan Thu Dec 05, 2013 6:14 pm

Suna no Kai

Suna no Kai
D-rank missing ninja
D-rank missing ninja

@Sloth. I was actually given permission, or the equivalent of permission, to do this.

@Aigo. I see what you are saying bout Raiton not being able to help produce Koton. Thus it has been removed. But I shall disagree with you on what elements are needed for Jiton. Jiton is Magnet Release, not Sand Release, therefor won't have anything to do with sand. Besides, this clan has never lived in Suna, thus they would have no need for stuff like Iron Sand. If anything, Raiton would be a chakra nature for this. And that is what I changed it to.

6Kurogane Clan Empty Re: Kurogane Clan Thu Dec 05, 2013 8:21 pm

Aigo

Aigo
Hokage
Hokage

Oh, I see you're using a more different version of Magnet Release, seeing as only Lightning Release would be a more efficient element. I'll get to the jutsu in a minute.

7Kurogane Clan Empty Re: Kurogane Clan Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:28 pm

Kid Koopa

Kid Koopa
Kumo Genin
Kumo Genin

The problem I see with this getting approved is that eventually other people will want to make a clan like this too. By that I mean two KKG's. Permission given or not people will dig this up and make it a valid reason for why they can create a clan with two advanced releases. I think one should be chosen and the other should be gained IC. Just follow transplant rules with the transfusion if you follow through.

8Kurogane Clan Empty Re: Kurogane Clan Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:37 pm

Suna no Kai

Suna no Kai
D-rank missing ninja
D-rank missing ninja

@Poncho. I shall try not to be rude, but that was the basic gist. Someone would either start with Jiton, or Koton, than earn the other Kekkei Genkai. I'm not incompetent to have people join the clan just so they can have two Kekkei Genkai. And I doubt Aigo is incompetent to allow people to start with both Kekkei Genkai. And since people can only start with a certain amount of elements based upon their rank, it shall be hard for them to even obtain both Kekkei Genkai.

Now I shall ask you, and any other moderator, to leave this topic and to not reply. Leave Aigo to grade this clan. And only Aigo.

9Kurogane Clan Empty Re: Kurogane Clan Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:47 pm

Kid Koopa

Kid Koopa
Kumo Genin
Kumo Genin

From the first sentence of your clan history I can assume some people start with both. I apologize for the misunderstanding, I was trying to shed some light on the matter to prevent future regrets. And I'm also sorry for replying.

10Kurogane Clan Empty Re: Kurogane Clan Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:21 am

Raphael

Raphael
Konoha Chunin
Konoha Chunin

Anubis, regardless he is staff and has a valid point in the matter. Not being rude, but you have no right to tell any member of staff not to comment if they have concerns. I still refuse to allow this clan to have both without a roll or wihout a heft Ryo price.

11Kurogane Clan Empty Re: Kurogane Clan Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:00 am

Suna no Kai

Suna no Kai
D-rank missing ninja
D-rank missing ninja

No Sloth. I totally didn't know Poncho was staff. I mean, I thought that '@' sign when he's in chat was just for decoration...

I shall move away from my sarcasm to address you properly. There's already a hefty price to pay in order to get a fourth element. And since only Anbu Captains and Kages start with three elements. Guess what? Everyone else needs to purchase either 2 or 3 elements in order to even end up with both limits. Let's take Genin for an example. Genin have to either start with Doton if they wish for Koton, or Raiton if they wish for Jiton. Than pay the price to have the second element along with the word count. Than if they want the other one, they would have to pay for the third element; example being on paying for Raiton because they already have Doton and Koton. Than do the word count for the third element. Now continuing with the example, the person must than purchase Jiton and do the word count for it.

Now please do tell me that there isn't enough fire rings one most jump through in order to have both limits. That's right. They are already paying a hefty price. Thus for you to tell me that you won't allow it unless one pays a hefty price when they already will be, sounds pretty stupid to me. Doesn't it sound the same to you?

No matter what I think. I've rested my case on how stupid it is to say you won't allow a clan to have two limits without a hefty price.

12Kurogane Clan Empty Re: Kurogane Clan Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:16 am

Kid Koopa

Kid Koopa
Kumo Genin
Kumo Genin

Random question, call me stupid because I know you will. And I will probably hear a sarcastic comment also, but why not just make a clan for Steel release? If Jiton is wanted then the person should just get a transfusion. Just like any other person if they wanted 2 kekkei Genkai's.

13Kurogane Clan Empty Re: Kurogane Clan Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:46 am

Suna no Kai

Suna no Kai
D-rank missing ninja
D-rank missing ninja

You would be wrong Poncho. I shall simply throw your words back at you. 'There's no transfusion rules so have a nice time hanging onto to that DNA.' Also, is there anyone with Jiton Poncho? Didn't think so.

That and if one has the chance to make a clan with two limits. They would normally take it. I'm one of those people.

14Kurogane Clan Empty Re: Kurogane Clan Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:09 am

Kid Koopa

Kid Koopa
Kumo Genin
Kumo Genin

If you read the transplant rules you can imply it corresponds to transfusions also

Transplant rules:
If you omit rules 4 and 5 then your system is right there. All you have to do is flop the words of Doujutsu to Kekkei Genkai. And even before you say it wasn't created and set in stone or whatever the case maybe, you could have easily suggested it or thought of this simple change yourself.

To add, the first sentence of the transplant rules are kind of saying, if you want more than one KKG you must go through surgery.

Transplant Rules wrote:
So there always has to be someone that wants more then one KKG but, the surgeries required are extremely dangerous and thus the possible risks and dangers must be added.
If I am interpreting this right it means, If you want more than one Kekkei genkai, you must go through a surgery.

I truthfully felt this whole two Kekkei Genkai clan should have been denied off the bat, but I let it linger, because I may have been wrong. Now looking at the transplant rules, I don't think my judgement was wrong.

15Kurogane Clan Empty Re: Kurogane Clan Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:28 am

Suna no Kai

Suna no Kai
D-rank missing ninja
D-rank missing ninja

This is why I wanted Aigo to check this. Because everyone else would irritate the hell out of me. And really Poncho. No, pick one or the other? Just straight up deny? *Chuckles* Well ain't that brilliant. As stated in CB. I'm done talking about this subject with you.

Edit: And though I refuse to apologize for what I said within the CB, because I meant every word. I shall admit I allowed my temper to get out of hand and thus insulted you several times. There were a better choice of words I could had used. But it's not something I shall apologize for.

16Kurogane Clan Empty Re: Kurogane Clan Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:20 am

Kid Koopa

Kid Koopa
Kumo Genin
Kumo Genin

I think you are irritated/furious or whatever it is you called, because people are going against what you want. It happens. Clans get denied all the time and this one hasn't even been stamped with a yes or a no. So breathe a bit. I am simply having my say on the mater, something I am suppose to do as a moderator. Yes I am still inexperienced, learning, and may be wrong at times, but that doesn't mean I have to listen to you call me incompetent and all that other shit. It's unnecessary, disrespectful, and childish.

You want 2 KKG's without surgery, still follow the surgery drawbacks. The strength of the second KKG, I am assuming that being Jiton, needs to be weakened to half strength and 2x chakra cost. If you want to, present a better drawback. I don't need sarcasm and name calling, just a solution. To be truthful I am fed up with the disrespect, it may be your natural personality, but that doesn't mean you can lack self control and act how ever you want to. Especially to a staff member whether it be Raph, me, Rain, Aigo, or anyone. I had a problem with Elendril's clan, we talked about it calmly, shared each of our opinions on the matter, came to a solution in half an hour. With two people seeing eye to eye and listening to the other with open minds it is achievable. Without constantly being bashed about how I see and perceive things, I believe we can do the same.

I apologize if I disrespected you, which I don't think I have considering I didn't call you any names or anything. This is a sincere open apology, so drop the bullshit, hurt feelings, irritation, all that and work with us instead of oppose us, to find a solution both parties can settle with and be satisfied with. I understand you want Aigo to handle it and stuff, but I feel you only want his input, because you believe he is already for approving thee clan, which he may be. But things shouldn't work like that. It sucks, but it's the truth. But that's not the point. He is out of internet and not as active as he can be, so I was and still am just trying to help.

17Kurogane Clan Empty Re: Kurogane Clan Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:36 am

Suna no Kai

Suna no Kai
D-rank missing ninja
D-rank missing ninja

I'm done trying to get two KKG approved within one clan. I'm tired of arguing about the whole thing, and it's a waste of my time and energy. Thus I simply removed Jiton. Can you please check the jutsu so this clan can be approved? And would you stop assuming that I'm furious because people are going against me. I had already told you in the CB that I wasn't furious because of that, but yet you insist that is my problem. Plus, my feelings aren't hurt. Stop assuming stuff. Either way. I'm done arguing about a clan and its abilities, and have chosen Koton.

Edit: I would also like to add. If I admit that I was in the wrong. How do I have hurt feelings? I rarely see those with hurt feelings admit they are in the wrong. But it must be different for you.

18Kurogane Clan Empty Re: Kurogane Clan Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:45 am

Kid Koopa

Kid Koopa
Kumo Genin
Kumo Genin

. . . lol what? I just apologized to you and I don't even know what I did wrong to make you irritated other than state my opinion on a clan and defend my point. It's what I am suppose to do. I rightfully could rage and cap lock and all that other stuff, like how you did in the cbox, but I'm not going to. And for the record irritation is a feeling, a negative one, so your feelings were hurt. Maybe not in the context of "oh I'm gonna cry." But that is a negative feeling, meaning they were a tad bit hurt. And when someone flames cap lock like you did and states they are full blown irritated.

"[19:16:44] Railgun : I DONT WANT TWO
[19:16:51] Railgun : THE CLAN IS ALLOWED TO HAVE TWO
[19:16:57] Railgun : YOU DONT SEEM TO GRASP THAT
[19:17:59] Railgun : Im full blown irritated with you"

I can assume you are furious. Sorry it wasn't about opposition, but it was obvious what you were furious.

And I don't know when you admitted you were wrong and still don't see it. Please tell me when you did, because at this point I am seriously baffled. I don't need the sarcasm and all this other nonsense. I am just trying to moderate a clan, yet with everything I say, it seems I have to hear a snarky ass comment are another insult. I'm not acting like that, calling people twats and incompetent, so why the hell am I tolerating you speak to me like that?

I apologized for something, when I think I shouldn't have. I only did it out of kindness and because I don't like having you irritated and all this crap, but it seems it was in vain. I'm not saying I want an apology, but the gesture would have been nice.

And ok sorry for assuming, but wow, what damage did that do other than give you something to overreact about. Sorry if you aren't overreacting and I am just perceiving things wrong, but seriously what the hell Anubis?
If you can tell me when I stepped on a land mine, please do, because once again, I didn't do shit to you other than state my opinion and try to moderate something that could have easily been Over Powered.

Anyhow, I'm gonna assume again and guess you don't give a rat's ass about the words of an incompetent teen, and that you might have just skipped over all of my irritating words.

Approved
 unless stated other wise.

19Kurogane Clan Empty Re: Kurogane Clan Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:55 am

Suna no Kai

Suna no Kai
D-rank missing ninja
D-rank missing ninja

Dude... really.

Edit: And though I refuse to apologize for what I said within the CB, because I meant every word. I shall admit I allowed my temper to get out of hand and thus insulted you several times. There were a better choice of words I could had used. But it's not something I shall apologize for.

That was when I admitted I was in the wrong, but I wouldn't apologize for it. And don't apologize for stating your opinion, that was what I was saying. Also, never apologize out of kindness, the apology is never earnest if you do so, which is why I hadn't apologized for my actions.. I'm over it, and have been over it for the pass hour. Which is why I admitted I was wrong.

I would rather admit I was wrong, which is truthful, rather than apologize and it not be earnest. Besides, would you rather receive an earnest apology or one out of kindness? I choose the former because it's earnest. Which again, is why I didn't apologize.

As stated, I've been over it for the pass hour.

20Kurogane Clan Empty Re: Kurogane Clan Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:20 am

Kid Koopa

Kid Koopa
Kumo Genin
Kumo Genin

My apologies are always truthful. Yes it wasn't needed, but it was truthful and earnest. I felt apologizing would soothe your nerves, so I gave it a shoot. Sick of talking don't care about you admitting whatever anymore, you have your approval. Glad you're over it, praise be to whatever divine you believe in if you do believe in one.

21Kurogane Clan Empty Re: Kurogane Clan Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:22 am

Suna no Kai

Suna no Kai
D-rank missing ninja
D-rank missing ninja

I guess whatever would be correct. I was trying to smooth things over on CB, but guess I caused to much damage for fences to be mended. You have a good day/evening/night.

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